securely passing a password to subprocess.Popen via environment











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I would like to securely ask a password to a user and then pass it to subprocess.Popen to run a command that requires it.



I have seen this question and that one, but I wonder if I can securely pass the password via the subprocess environment like that:



import subprocess, os
user_password = input("what is you password?")
my_env = os.environ.copy()
my_env["userpass"] = user_password
my_command = "python --version"
subprocess.Popen(my_command, env=my_env)


Will the password be flushed once the python script is closed ? I have look at the subprocess documentation but it's not explained.



When I add this line print(os.environ['userpass']) at the end of my code to print the OS environment, I can retrieve the user password. Do it means that the password can be access by the other running processes ?



Edit: I can't pipe the password as the command I use doesn't read its password from standard input










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    I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:26












  • It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:30












  • Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:48












  • regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:49










  • (a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:51















up vote
4
down vote

favorite












I would like to securely ask a password to a user and then pass it to subprocess.Popen to run a command that requires it.



I have seen this question and that one, but I wonder if I can securely pass the password via the subprocess environment like that:



import subprocess, os
user_password = input("what is you password?")
my_env = os.environ.copy()
my_env["userpass"] = user_password
my_command = "python --version"
subprocess.Popen(my_command, env=my_env)


Will the password be flushed once the python script is closed ? I have look at the subprocess documentation but it's not explained.



When I add this line print(os.environ['userpass']) at the end of my code to print the OS environment, I can retrieve the user password. Do it means that the password can be access by the other running processes ?



Edit: I can't pipe the password as the command I use doesn't read its password from standard input










share|improve this question




















  • 2




    I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:26












  • It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:30












  • Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:48












  • regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:49










  • (a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:51













up vote
4
down vote

favorite









up vote
4
down vote

favorite











I would like to securely ask a password to a user and then pass it to subprocess.Popen to run a command that requires it.



I have seen this question and that one, but I wonder if I can securely pass the password via the subprocess environment like that:



import subprocess, os
user_password = input("what is you password?")
my_env = os.environ.copy()
my_env["userpass"] = user_password
my_command = "python --version"
subprocess.Popen(my_command, env=my_env)


Will the password be flushed once the python script is closed ? I have look at the subprocess documentation but it's not explained.



When I add this line print(os.environ['userpass']) at the end of my code to print the OS environment, I can retrieve the user password. Do it means that the password can be access by the other running processes ?



Edit: I can't pipe the password as the command I use doesn't read its password from standard input










share|improve this question















I would like to securely ask a password to a user and then pass it to subprocess.Popen to run a command that requires it.



I have seen this question and that one, but I wonder if I can securely pass the password via the subprocess environment like that:



import subprocess, os
user_password = input("what is you password?")
my_env = os.environ.copy()
my_env["userpass"] = user_password
my_command = "python --version"
subprocess.Popen(my_command, env=my_env)


Will the password be flushed once the python script is closed ? I have look at the subprocess documentation but it's not explained.



When I add this line print(os.environ['userpass']) at the end of my code to print the OS environment, I can retrieve the user password. Do it means that the password can be access by the other running processes ?



Edit: I can't pipe the password as the command I use doesn't read its password from standard input







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    I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:26












  • It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:30












  • Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:48












  • regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:49










  • (a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:51














  • 2




    I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:26












  • It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:30












  • Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:48












  • regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
    – Enora
    Nov 9 at 20:49










  • (a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
    – jedwards
    Nov 9 at 20:51








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I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:26






I'd pipe it into the subprocess. Trying to hide it in the environment is maybe marginally better than on the cmdline, but it's still accessible /proc/<pid>/environ (in linux at least).
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:26














It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:30






It looks like the environment trick is just as risky on Windows too, btw (here)
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:30














Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
– Enora
Nov 9 at 20:48






Thanks for your help! Regarding cmdline. When you say cmdline, you mean this: I run the command directly in Windows command prompt, wait for the command to ask the password and then I type it? Is this unsafe?
– Enora
Nov 9 at 20:48














regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
– Enora
Nov 9 at 20:49




regarding pipe: do you mean doing something like this stackoverflow.com/a/41094357/3154274
– Enora
Nov 9 at 20:49












(a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:51




(a) no that's safe, I mean when you first type the name of your program to call it -- that's the line I was referring to, not anything you enter subsequently. (b) Yes, that's what I mean re: piping it.
– jedwards
Nov 9 at 20:51

















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