Use of HAVING without GROUP BY not working as expected
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I am starting to learn SQL Server, in the documentation found in msdn states like this
HAVING is typically used with a GROUP BY clause. When GROUP BY is not used, there is an implicit single, aggregated group.
This made me to think that we can use having without a groupBy clause, but when I am trying to make a query I am not able to use it.
I have a table like this
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[_abc]
(
[wage] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
INSERT INTO [dbo].[_abc] (wage)
VALUES (4), (8), (15), (30), (50)
GO
Now when I run this query, I get an error
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
Error:
sql sql-server group-by having
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I am starting to learn SQL Server, in the documentation found in msdn states like this
HAVING is typically used with a GROUP BY clause. When GROUP BY is not used, there is an implicit single, aggregated group.
This made me to think that we can use having without a groupBy clause, but when I am trying to make a query I am not able to use it.
I have a table like this
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[_abc]
(
[wage] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
INSERT INTO [dbo].[_abc] (wage)
VALUES (4), (8), (15), (30), (50)
GO
Now when I run this query, I get an error
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
Error:
sql sql-server group-by having
1
Try:select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
1
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
1
Yes, withselect wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), withselect sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.
– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57
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I am starting to learn SQL Server, in the documentation found in msdn states like this
HAVING is typically used with a GROUP BY clause. When GROUP BY is not used, there is an implicit single, aggregated group.
This made me to think that we can use having without a groupBy clause, but when I am trying to make a query I am not able to use it.
I have a table like this
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[_abc]
(
[wage] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
INSERT INTO [dbo].[_abc] (wage)
VALUES (4), (8), (15), (30), (50)
GO
Now when I run this query, I get an error
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
Error:
sql sql-server group-by having
I am starting to learn SQL Server, in the documentation found in msdn states like this
HAVING is typically used with a GROUP BY clause. When GROUP BY is not used, there is an implicit single, aggregated group.
This made me to think that we can use having without a groupBy clause, but when I am trying to make a query I am not able to use it.
I have a table like this
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[_abc]
(
[wage] [int] NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
GO
INSERT INTO [dbo].[_abc] (wage)
VALUES (4), (8), (15), (30), (50)
GO
Now when I run this query, I get an error
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
Error:
sql sql-server group-by having
sql sql-server group-by having
edited Nov 14 at 6:55
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Try:select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
1
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
1
Yes, withselect wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), withselect sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.
– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57
|
show 3 more comments
1
Try:select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
1
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
1
Yes, withselect wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), withselect sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.
– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57
1
1
Try:
select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
Try:
select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
1
1
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
1
1
Yes, with
select wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), with select sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57
Yes, with
select wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), with select sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57
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The documentation is correct; i.e. you could run this statement:
select sum(wage) sum_of_all_wages
, count(1) count_of_all_records
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *
, which means select every columns' value. When there is no group by
, all records are aggregated; i.e. you only get 1 record in your result set which has to represent every record. As such, you can only* include values provided by applying aggregate functions to your columns; not the columns themselves.
* of course, you can also provide constants, so select 'x' constant, count(1) cnt from myTable
would work.
There aren't many use cases I can think of where you'd want to use having without a group by, but certainly it can be done as shown above.
NB: If you wanted all rows where the wage was greater than 5, you'd use the where
clause instead:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Equally, if you want the sum of all wages greater than 5 you can do this
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage_over_5
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Or if you wanted to compare the sum of wages over 5 with those under:
select case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end wage_over_five
, sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end
See runnable examples here.
Update based on comments:
Do you need having
to use aggregate functions?
No. You can run select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc]
. When an aggregate function is used without a group by
clause, it's as if you're grouping by a constant; i.e. select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc] group by 1
.
The documentation merely means that whilst normally you'd have a having
statement with a group by
statement, it's OK to exclude the group by
/ in such cases the having
statement, like the select
statement, will treat your query as if you'd specified group by 1
What's the point?
It's hard to think of many good use cases, since you're only getting one row back and the having
statement is a filter on that.
One use case could be that you write code to monitor your licenses for some software; if you have less users than per-user-licenses all's good / you don't want to see the result since you don't care. If you have more users you want to know about it. E.g.
declare @totalUserLicenses int = 100
select count(1) NumberOfActiveUsers
, @totalUserLicenses NumberOfLicenses
, count(1) - @totalUserLicenses NumberOfAdditionalLicensesToPurchase
from [dbo].[Users]
where enabled = 1
having count(1) > @totalUserLicenses
Isn't the select irrelevant to the having clause?
Yes and no. Having is a filter on your aggregated data. Select says what columns/information to bring back. As such you have to ask "what would the result look like?" i.e. Given we've had to effectively apply group by 1
to make use of the having
statement, how should SQL interpret select *
? Since your table only has one column this would translate to select wage
; but we have 5 rows, so 5 different values of wage
, and only 1 row in the result to show this.
I guess you could say "I want to return all rows if their sum is greater than 5; otherwise I don't want to return any rows". Were that your requirement it could be achieved a variety of ways; one of which would be:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where exists
(
select 1
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
)
However, we have to write the code to meet the requirement, rather than expect the code to understand our intent.
Another way to think about having
is as being a where
statement applied to a subquery. I.e. your original statement effectively reads:
select wage
from
(
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by 1
) singleRowResult
where sum_of_wage > 5
That won't run because wage
is not available to the outer query; only sum_of_wage
is returned.
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're askinghow can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would behow do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where usinghaving
without agroup by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
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HAVING
without GROUP BY
clause is perfectly valid but here is what you need to understand:
- The result will contain zero or one row
- The implicit
GROUP BY
will return exactly one row even if theWHERE
condition matched zero rows
HAVING
will keep or eliminate that single row based on the condition
- The implicit
- Any column in the
SELECT
clause needs to be wrapped inside an aggregate function - You can also specify an expression as long as it is not functionally dependent on the columns
Which means you can do this:
SELECT SUM(wage)
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing the sum if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
Or even this:
SELECT 1
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing "1" if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
This construct is often used when you're interested in checking if a match for the aggregate was found:
SELECT *
FROM departments
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM employees
WHERE employees.department = departments.department
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
)
-- all departments whose employees earn more than 100 in total
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In SQL you cannot return aggregate functioned columns directly. You need to group the non aggregate fields
As shown below example
USE AdventureWorks2012 ;
GO
SELECT SalesOrderID, SUM(LineTotal) AS SubTotal
FROM Sales.SalesOrderDetail
GROUP BY SalesOrderID
HAVING SUM(LineTotal) > 100000.00
ORDER BY SalesOrderID ;
In your case you don't have identity column for your table it should come as below
Alter _abc
Add Id_new Int Identity(1, 1)
Go
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The documentation is correct; i.e. you could run this statement:
select sum(wage) sum_of_all_wages
, count(1) count_of_all_records
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *
, which means select every columns' value. When there is no group by
, all records are aggregated; i.e. you only get 1 record in your result set which has to represent every record. As such, you can only* include values provided by applying aggregate functions to your columns; not the columns themselves.
* of course, you can also provide constants, so select 'x' constant, count(1) cnt from myTable
would work.
There aren't many use cases I can think of where you'd want to use having without a group by, but certainly it can be done as shown above.
NB: If you wanted all rows where the wage was greater than 5, you'd use the where
clause instead:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Equally, if you want the sum of all wages greater than 5 you can do this
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage_over_5
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Or if you wanted to compare the sum of wages over 5 with those under:
select case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end wage_over_five
, sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end
See runnable examples here.
Update based on comments:
Do you need having
to use aggregate functions?
No. You can run select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc]
. When an aggregate function is used without a group by
clause, it's as if you're grouping by a constant; i.e. select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc] group by 1
.
The documentation merely means that whilst normally you'd have a having
statement with a group by
statement, it's OK to exclude the group by
/ in such cases the having
statement, like the select
statement, will treat your query as if you'd specified group by 1
What's the point?
It's hard to think of many good use cases, since you're only getting one row back and the having
statement is a filter on that.
One use case could be that you write code to monitor your licenses for some software; if you have less users than per-user-licenses all's good / you don't want to see the result since you don't care. If you have more users you want to know about it. E.g.
declare @totalUserLicenses int = 100
select count(1) NumberOfActiveUsers
, @totalUserLicenses NumberOfLicenses
, count(1) - @totalUserLicenses NumberOfAdditionalLicensesToPurchase
from [dbo].[Users]
where enabled = 1
having count(1) > @totalUserLicenses
Isn't the select irrelevant to the having clause?
Yes and no. Having is a filter on your aggregated data. Select says what columns/information to bring back. As such you have to ask "what would the result look like?" i.e. Given we've had to effectively apply group by 1
to make use of the having
statement, how should SQL interpret select *
? Since your table only has one column this would translate to select wage
; but we have 5 rows, so 5 different values of wage
, and only 1 row in the result to show this.
I guess you could say "I want to return all rows if their sum is greater than 5; otherwise I don't want to return any rows". Were that your requirement it could be achieved a variety of ways; one of which would be:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where exists
(
select 1
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
)
However, we have to write the code to meet the requirement, rather than expect the code to understand our intent.
Another way to think about having
is as being a where
statement applied to a subquery. I.e. your original statement effectively reads:
select wage
from
(
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by 1
) singleRowResult
where sum_of_wage > 5
That won't run because wage
is not available to the outer query; only sum_of_wage
is returned.
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're askinghow can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would behow do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where usinghaving
without agroup by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
The documentation is correct; i.e. you could run this statement:
select sum(wage) sum_of_all_wages
, count(1) count_of_all_records
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *
, which means select every columns' value. When there is no group by
, all records are aggregated; i.e. you only get 1 record in your result set which has to represent every record. As such, you can only* include values provided by applying aggregate functions to your columns; not the columns themselves.
* of course, you can also provide constants, so select 'x' constant, count(1) cnt from myTable
would work.
There aren't many use cases I can think of where you'd want to use having without a group by, but certainly it can be done as shown above.
NB: If you wanted all rows where the wage was greater than 5, you'd use the where
clause instead:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Equally, if you want the sum of all wages greater than 5 you can do this
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage_over_5
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Or if you wanted to compare the sum of wages over 5 with those under:
select case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end wage_over_five
, sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end
See runnable examples here.
Update based on comments:
Do you need having
to use aggregate functions?
No. You can run select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc]
. When an aggregate function is used without a group by
clause, it's as if you're grouping by a constant; i.e. select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc] group by 1
.
The documentation merely means that whilst normally you'd have a having
statement with a group by
statement, it's OK to exclude the group by
/ in such cases the having
statement, like the select
statement, will treat your query as if you'd specified group by 1
What's the point?
It's hard to think of many good use cases, since you're only getting one row back and the having
statement is a filter on that.
One use case could be that you write code to monitor your licenses for some software; if you have less users than per-user-licenses all's good / you don't want to see the result since you don't care. If you have more users you want to know about it. E.g.
declare @totalUserLicenses int = 100
select count(1) NumberOfActiveUsers
, @totalUserLicenses NumberOfLicenses
, count(1) - @totalUserLicenses NumberOfAdditionalLicensesToPurchase
from [dbo].[Users]
where enabled = 1
having count(1) > @totalUserLicenses
Isn't the select irrelevant to the having clause?
Yes and no. Having is a filter on your aggregated data. Select says what columns/information to bring back. As such you have to ask "what would the result look like?" i.e. Given we've had to effectively apply group by 1
to make use of the having
statement, how should SQL interpret select *
? Since your table only has one column this would translate to select wage
; but we have 5 rows, so 5 different values of wage
, and only 1 row in the result to show this.
I guess you could say "I want to return all rows if their sum is greater than 5; otherwise I don't want to return any rows". Were that your requirement it could be achieved a variety of ways; one of which would be:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where exists
(
select 1
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
)
However, we have to write the code to meet the requirement, rather than expect the code to understand our intent.
Another way to think about having
is as being a where
statement applied to a subquery. I.e. your original statement effectively reads:
select wage
from
(
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by 1
) singleRowResult
where sum_of_wage > 5
That won't run because wage
is not available to the outer query; only sum_of_wage
is returned.
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're askinghow can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would behow do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where usinghaving
without agroup by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
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The documentation is correct; i.e. you could run this statement:
select sum(wage) sum_of_all_wages
, count(1) count_of_all_records
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *
, which means select every columns' value. When there is no group by
, all records are aggregated; i.e. you only get 1 record in your result set which has to represent every record. As such, you can only* include values provided by applying aggregate functions to your columns; not the columns themselves.
* of course, you can also provide constants, so select 'x' constant, count(1) cnt from myTable
would work.
There aren't many use cases I can think of where you'd want to use having without a group by, but certainly it can be done as shown above.
NB: If you wanted all rows where the wage was greater than 5, you'd use the where
clause instead:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Equally, if you want the sum of all wages greater than 5 you can do this
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage_over_5
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Or if you wanted to compare the sum of wages over 5 with those under:
select case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end wage_over_five
, sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end
See runnable examples here.
Update based on comments:
Do you need having
to use aggregate functions?
No. You can run select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc]
. When an aggregate function is used without a group by
clause, it's as if you're grouping by a constant; i.e. select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc] group by 1
.
The documentation merely means that whilst normally you'd have a having
statement with a group by
statement, it's OK to exclude the group by
/ in such cases the having
statement, like the select
statement, will treat your query as if you'd specified group by 1
What's the point?
It's hard to think of many good use cases, since you're only getting one row back and the having
statement is a filter on that.
One use case could be that you write code to monitor your licenses for some software; if you have less users than per-user-licenses all's good / you don't want to see the result since you don't care. If you have more users you want to know about it. E.g.
declare @totalUserLicenses int = 100
select count(1) NumberOfActiveUsers
, @totalUserLicenses NumberOfLicenses
, count(1) - @totalUserLicenses NumberOfAdditionalLicensesToPurchase
from [dbo].[Users]
where enabled = 1
having count(1) > @totalUserLicenses
Isn't the select irrelevant to the having clause?
Yes and no. Having is a filter on your aggregated data. Select says what columns/information to bring back. As such you have to ask "what would the result look like?" i.e. Given we've had to effectively apply group by 1
to make use of the having
statement, how should SQL interpret select *
? Since your table only has one column this would translate to select wage
; but we have 5 rows, so 5 different values of wage
, and only 1 row in the result to show this.
I guess you could say "I want to return all rows if their sum is greater than 5; otherwise I don't want to return any rows". Were that your requirement it could be achieved a variety of ways; one of which would be:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where exists
(
select 1
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
)
However, we have to write the code to meet the requirement, rather than expect the code to understand our intent.
Another way to think about having
is as being a where
statement applied to a subquery. I.e. your original statement effectively reads:
select wage
from
(
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by 1
) singleRowResult
where sum_of_wage > 5
That won't run because wage
is not available to the outer query; only sum_of_wage
is returned.
The documentation is correct; i.e. you could run this statement:
select sum(wage) sum_of_all_wages
, count(1) count_of_all_records
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *
, which means select every columns' value. When there is no group by
, all records are aggregated; i.e. you only get 1 record in your result set which has to represent every record. As such, you can only* include values provided by applying aggregate functions to your columns; not the columns themselves.
* of course, you can also provide constants, so select 'x' constant, count(1) cnt from myTable
would work.
There aren't many use cases I can think of where you'd want to use having without a group by, but certainly it can be done as shown above.
NB: If you wanted all rows where the wage was greater than 5, you'd use the where
clause instead:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Equally, if you want the sum of all wages greater than 5 you can do this
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage_over_5
from [dbo].[_abc]
where wage > 5
Or if you wanted to compare the sum of wages over 5 with those under:
select case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end wage_over_five
, sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by case when wage > 5 then 1 else 0 end
See runnable examples here.
Update based on comments:
Do you need having
to use aggregate functions?
No. You can run select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc]
. When an aggregate function is used without a group by
clause, it's as if you're grouping by a constant; i.e. select sum(wage) from [dbo].[_abc] group by 1
.
The documentation merely means that whilst normally you'd have a having
statement with a group by
statement, it's OK to exclude the group by
/ in such cases the having
statement, like the select
statement, will treat your query as if you'd specified group by 1
What's the point?
It's hard to think of many good use cases, since you're only getting one row back and the having
statement is a filter on that.
One use case could be that you write code to monitor your licenses for some software; if you have less users than per-user-licenses all's good / you don't want to see the result since you don't care. If you have more users you want to know about it. E.g.
declare @totalUserLicenses int = 100
select count(1) NumberOfActiveUsers
, @totalUserLicenses NumberOfLicenses
, count(1) - @totalUserLicenses NumberOfAdditionalLicensesToPurchase
from [dbo].[Users]
where enabled = 1
having count(1) > @totalUserLicenses
Isn't the select irrelevant to the having clause?
Yes and no. Having is a filter on your aggregated data. Select says what columns/information to bring back. As such you have to ask "what would the result look like?" i.e. Given we've had to effectively apply group by 1
to make use of the having
statement, how should SQL interpret select *
? Since your table only has one column this would translate to select wage
; but we have 5 rows, so 5 different values of wage
, and only 1 row in the result to show this.
I guess you could say "I want to return all rows if their sum is greater than 5; otherwise I don't want to return any rows". Were that your requirement it could be achieved a variety of ways; one of which would be:
select *
from [dbo].[_abc]
where exists
(
select 1
from [dbo].[_abc]
having sum(wage) > 5
)
However, we have to write the code to meet the requirement, rather than expect the code to understand our intent.
Another way to think about having
is as being a where
statement applied to a subquery. I.e. your original statement effectively reads:
select wage
from
(
select sum(wage) sum_of_wage
from [dbo].[_abc]
group by 1
) singleRowResult
where sum_of_wage > 5
That won't run because wage
is not available to the outer query; only sum_of_wage
is returned.
edited Nov 10 at 9:27
answered Nov 10 at 8:42
JohnLBevan
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the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're askinghow can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would behow do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where usinghaving
without agroup by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
add a comment |
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're askinghow can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would behow do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where usinghaving
without agroup by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
the reason why i gave this small example is that i want to understand the useage of having without the gruoupBy clasue
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:51
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
my question is how can i use the having clause in the table whichi have designed
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:52
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
i have some quesiton regarding the answer which u have posted "The reason your statement doesn't work is because of the select *" 1.the column in the select clause is irrelevant to the having clause, because all the having clause does is provisions us to use the aggregate function, right? if not please explain it, thanks
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 8:57
1
1
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're asking
how can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would be how do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where using having
without a group by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
Hopefully my updated answer makes more sense... let me know. As someone learning the language your approach is different to most peoples; you're asking
how can I use having without using group by
as a way to understand it. In standard use cases you'd have a goal in mind first and your question would be how do I achieve this
. As mentioned, it's hard to think of many examples where using having
without a group by
would make sense; so I'd say make a mental note that it's an option, and move on to learning something else; then in future if you hit a use case, hopefully you'll recall this– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 9:14
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
HAVING
without GROUP BY
clause is perfectly valid but here is what you need to understand:
- The result will contain zero or one row
- The implicit
GROUP BY
will return exactly one row even if theWHERE
condition matched zero rows
HAVING
will keep or eliminate that single row based on the condition
- The implicit
- Any column in the
SELECT
clause needs to be wrapped inside an aggregate function - You can also specify an expression as long as it is not functionally dependent on the columns
Which means you can do this:
SELECT SUM(wage)
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing the sum if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
Or even this:
SELECT 1
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing "1" if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
This construct is often used when you're interested in checking if a match for the aggregate was found:
SELECT *
FROM departments
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM employees
WHERE employees.department = departments.department
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
)
-- all departments whose employees earn more than 100 in total
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
HAVING
without GROUP BY
clause is perfectly valid but here is what you need to understand:
- The result will contain zero or one row
- The implicit
GROUP BY
will return exactly one row even if theWHERE
condition matched zero rows
HAVING
will keep or eliminate that single row based on the condition
- The implicit
- Any column in the
SELECT
clause needs to be wrapped inside an aggregate function - You can also specify an expression as long as it is not functionally dependent on the columns
Which means you can do this:
SELECT SUM(wage)
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing the sum if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
Or even this:
SELECT 1
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing "1" if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
This construct is often used when you're interested in checking if a match for the aggregate was found:
SELECT *
FROM departments
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM employees
WHERE employees.department = departments.department
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
)
-- all departments whose employees earn more than 100 in total
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
HAVING
without GROUP BY
clause is perfectly valid but here is what you need to understand:
- The result will contain zero or one row
- The implicit
GROUP BY
will return exactly one row even if theWHERE
condition matched zero rows
HAVING
will keep or eliminate that single row based on the condition
- The implicit
- Any column in the
SELECT
clause needs to be wrapped inside an aggregate function - You can also specify an expression as long as it is not functionally dependent on the columns
Which means you can do this:
SELECT SUM(wage)
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing the sum if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
Or even this:
SELECT 1
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing "1" if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
This construct is often used when you're interested in checking if a match for the aggregate was found:
SELECT *
FROM departments
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM employees
WHERE employees.department = departments.department
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
)
-- all departments whose employees earn more than 100 in total
HAVING
without GROUP BY
clause is perfectly valid but here is what you need to understand:
- The result will contain zero or one row
- The implicit
GROUP BY
will return exactly one row even if theWHERE
condition matched zero rows
HAVING
will keep or eliminate that single row based on the condition
- The implicit
- Any column in the
SELECT
clause needs to be wrapped inside an aggregate function - You can also specify an expression as long as it is not functionally dependent on the columns
Which means you can do this:
SELECT SUM(wage)
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing the sum if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
Or even this:
SELECT 1
FROM employees
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
-- One row containing "1" if the sum is greater than 5
-- Zero rows otherwise
This construct is often used when you're interested in checking if a match for the aggregate was found:
SELECT *
FROM departments
WHERE EXISTS (
SELECT 1
FROM employees
WHERE employees.department = departments.department
HAVING SUM(wage) > 100
)
-- all departments whose employees earn more than 100 in total
edited Nov 10 at 10:40
answered Nov 10 at 10:34
Salman A
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In SQL you cannot return aggregate functioned columns directly. You need to group the non aggregate fields
As shown below example
USE AdventureWorks2012 ;
GO
SELECT SalesOrderID, SUM(LineTotal) AS SubTotal
FROM Sales.SalesOrderDetail
GROUP BY SalesOrderID
HAVING SUM(LineTotal) > 100000.00
ORDER BY SalesOrderID ;
In your case you don't have identity column for your table it should come as below
Alter _abc
Add Id_new Int Identity(1, 1)
Go
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
In SQL you cannot return aggregate functioned columns directly. You need to group the non aggregate fields
As shown below example
USE AdventureWorks2012 ;
GO
SELECT SalesOrderID, SUM(LineTotal) AS SubTotal
FROM Sales.SalesOrderDetail
GROUP BY SalesOrderID
HAVING SUM(LineTotal) > 100000.00
ORDER BY SalesOrderID ;
In your case you don't have identity column for your table it should come as below
Alter _abc
Add Id_new Int Identity(1, 1)
Go
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
In SQL you cannot return aggregate functioned columns directly. You need to group the non aggregate fields
As shown below example
USE AdventureWorks2012 ;
GO
SELECT SalesOrderID, SUM(LineTotal) AS SubTotal
FROM Sales.SalesOrderDetail
GROUP BY SalesOrderID
HAVING SUM(LineTotal) > 100000.00
ORDER BY SalesOrderID ;
In your case you don't have identity column for your table it should come as below
Alter _abc
Add Id_new Int Identity(1, 1)
Go
In SQL you cannot return aggregate functioned columns directly. You need to group the non aggregate fields
As shown below example
USE AdventureWorks2012 ;
GO
SELECT SalesOrderID, SUM(LineTotal) AS SubTotal
FROM Sales.SalesOrderDetail
GROUP BY SalesOrderID
HAVING SUM(LineTotal) > 100000.00
ORDER BY SalesOrderID ;
In your case you don't have identity column for your table it should come as below
Alter _abc
Add Id_new Int Identity(1, 1)
Go
answered Nov 10 at 8:44
PrathapG
514418
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Try:
select sum(wage), count(1) from [dbo].[_abc] having sum(wage)>5
– JohnLBevan
Nov 10 at 8:38
1
What exactly would you want that query to return? Can you add an example of that expected output?
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:00
@johey, i just want to learn the implementation of having without the groupBy Clause, i used this table becasue it is simple and would be easy to understand
– Lijin Durairaj
Nov 10 at 9:04
As already stated by John and Pratap, when using group by and/or having, you cannot just use anything you want in the select list. According to msdn (the statement you copied), without a group by the result will be put into an "implicit single, aggregated group". So, using * in your select (or explicitly using the column wage) will not work as these different values cannot be converted to just one group (one resulting record).
– johey
Nov 10 at 9:05
1
Yes, with
select wage
you are asking to select all wages (so multiple records needs to be returned), withselect sum(wage)
you will only get one result (the sum of all wages). The "implicit single, aggregate group" does not allow multiple results to be returned, hence the error you are getting.– johey
Nov 10 at 10:57